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| | Heavens, The queers, The thermals. | ] | You know Jesus the magician Statistician God bless your superstition Walked on water Turned it into wine Hated faggots Complained about them all the time The world is lousy with religion Of course yours is the true one Your faith can't make our decisions Aren't they our decisions Anyways?
They're only words They can't draw blood Is that a dose of Jesus' love Left 'em bleeding You were screaming Razorblades Razorblades Your words are so sharp with hate Left 'em bleeding You were screaming Razorblades
Who'd believe us Without statisticians Mounting death tolls God bless your superstition It there's no atheists In the trenches
I think that maybe they came to their senses The world is lousy with religion Of course yours is a peaceful one Your faith can't make our decisions Aren't they our decisions Anyways?
They're only words They can't draw blood Is that a dose of Jesus' love Left 'em bleeding You were screaming Razorblades Razorblades Your words are so sharp with hate Left 'em bleeding You were screaming Razorblades - American Steel
That little diddy is by the one and only American steel. A great fucking band, and that record is in particular spectacular (Their 2007 release Destroy their future) and you should buy it. The reason the song is up though is not to just praise (hehe... Irony) the band, the lyrics strike a nerve with me that boils my fucking blood like no other Topic, which is indeed what I will talk about today. You may think the title of this blog is hateful, well honestly, maybe it is, but before you write me off, at least read it. I understand I am not making any friends by writing this, or I may even be alienate some of the friends I have, but honestly right now I really don't care. No offense to my religious friends at all, I still love you guy's, but a great band once said "I'd rather be hated, than ignored". This topic is about pretty much about my hatred for most organized religions, and the people who follow them, Specifically the western world "Jesus freaks" which I will mostly talk about today. A topic that I feel very strongly about, and as of right now (as you can judge from the title) I feel no need to be remotely nice about it because at times I am not remotely a nice guy. I will however try to give my best logical view point in a mature way, although swearing and literal screaming as well as name calling will indeed occur. I also would like to quickly point out my following qualifications to even discuss this and also dispel some facts about me that are mostly assumed. One thing that pisses me off in this world is people who assume things about someone. I don't figure this will justify anything to anybody but it should be said before I start to give a better perspective of me at least.
First let's talk about where I have lived at and it's influence.
- Growing up in a few different state's and having a few different friends with many different backgrounds have helped me understand a lot for sure. Living in Redmond Oregon, there was the proto-typical small town christian population, mostly Lutherans and baptists although I was associated with a few evangelists too. Going to school in Redmond Oregon (Where I lived from age 2 till 16, except for a small time when I lived in Washington with my Grandparents) is a bible thumping experience in and of itself. Going to Vern Patrick elementary school, I did many church activities without knowing (I was in fifth grade, all I cared about at that time was listening to music and playing pokemon). Every Friday at lunch time, more than half the school would go to an event called "good news" out in the field. It never accrued to me what it was, all I knew was that these kids got to miss about 15 extra minutes of school when they went. I wanted to be with some of my "good news" attending friends at lunch and get the extra fifteen minutes off too, so I asked my friend to invite me one day to join them. No parents permission necessary... I remember vividly grabbing our school provided "hot lunches" of soggy tater tots and hamburgers, and then walking out onto the field just beyond the playground. Members of the school staff met us out there, and the split into two groups to form a walkway. I remember feeling awkward as hell walking through my teachers like this, and all the while they handed me flier after pamphlet after mini - comic book as I walked, all about Jesus or whatever religious hogwash seemed appropriate for kids. We then sat on the grass and ate our lunches while many members of the school staff went into the middle of a circle and talked about their "relationship with Jesus". Most stories involved the same situation, they were lost, alcoholics, over all bad people until they found the J-man. They told us no matter what we do Jesus loves us and he will always forgive us for what we do. I remember Mr. Crow (who was always a fucking prick) had an especially downtrodden story. Something about smoking crack in south chicago and being homeless. Anyways, I remember thinking this was stupid... I'd rather being eating lunch in the classroom and reading. After this I got invited again, but I declined because I would have rather been playing four-square any day than to sit through this drivel. I always talk about how I wasn't very easily influenced growing up, and this is one of the best examples I can find of this fact. Almost everyone else I know would have believed anything they were told at that age. Even at this young age I knew what they were talking about wasn't for me. It's something Christians in particular like to teach and practice... do not question because there is no reason. This is one of the many teachings holy people do that make me fucking scream. Do not question...!?!? Fuck man this makes me angry!
Lyle Washington was really about the same, except this smaller town (population is about 700 people...) has a denser religious population. I am willing to bet around 98% of the town is religious, and more than likely Christians. The one baptist church in town Has anywhere from 500 - 800 people gathered around on Sundays. The town shuts down completely for this. People come from the other nearby small towns came just to praise. Running down the aisle, pointing towards the sky, crying and shouting... it all happens here. This may be off topic though, but this is also the church my parents were married at.
A small little town in the dessert... Las Vegas Nevada is were I reside now, and have since I been 16 years old. Many people here the word Vegas and think Gambling, Neon lights, Lance fucking Burton, prostitution, and never ending all you can eat buffet's. While Vegas does have it's fair share of these for sure, for being such a city of sin (A "sin city" if you will), the Mormon population here is massive. Being so close to Utah, you can barely drive a block without seeing a Mormon Temple. I went to and graduated from Shadow Ridge high school in North Las Vegas, Mormon Population of the school was probably somewhere near 75%. This was something new for me, having only had to put up with Christians and the occasional Catholic in my life. Less than fifty feet from the Shadow Ridge Parking lot is a Mormon temple, half the schools population is, by their religion's law, required to go there before school starts. I learned a lot about Mormonism just by going to school with these kids. On top of Mormon's, the Christians in Vegas are intense too. The last two years or so I have attended many Christian events in town. I started dating a girl who was very Christian, and her family the same. I went to many bible studies, concerts, and just plain old Sunday Morning Church with them (for awhile anyway). You see I thought I would bare through all this because I want her family to like me, but after a few months, I couldn't do it anymore. Being me because more important, as it should be with everyone. I don't want to talk much more about her family though specifically, because I don't want to be in the doghouse for one, but they are also very nice people that have been hospitable to me, and truth be told, the same can be said for almost all religous people. It's not the attitude of the "Jesus people" that bothers me in particular, I will explain more on this later. Anyways, the girlfriends family has been just one of my example of what Christians do, believe in, and how their mind works.
Now for some facts about me.
- While I am no theology major, I have studied every religion I discuss in this blog pretty thoroughly. Last summer I attended gatherings of each major religion for at least a week, No bullshit I promise. I read all of their respective literature for the most part as well. I was interested in what people believe, and can possibly believe so I took it upon myself to find out the long way. Like I said, I would never consider myself an expert, but I do know what I am talking about a bit to an extent. All summer long I gathered at churches, synagogues, temples, various study groups at peoples houses, the middle of the desert, and Mt. Charleston. It was intense to say the least. I have also watched lots of videos on both sides of the equation. From many movies explaining logically how Jesus is fake and made up, to movies used in bible studies all over the world. I have read christian books, conservative books, liberal books, atheist/ agnostic books. It's been a subject that's interested me for a long time to say the least. Some people love to read up on World war two, some people on ancient Egypt, for me it's been religion.
- If there is one thing assumed with me that makes me rip my hair out, it's the fact that people always fucking tell me "well you don't believe because you never wanted to believe in the first place". There is nothing about that statment that's true first off. You're telling me when I was in fourth grade and my Grandma, whom I was very close with and loved very much died of Cancer suddenly, I didn't want to believe in some utopia where she was eternally happy? Are you telling me when I lost a great friend in 2004 to suicide I never wanted to think he was someplace better with no pain. Fuck you! Nothing would have dried my tear filled eyes than to think that, I never wanted something to be real that bad ever. And another thing is you fucking morons, are you stating in order to beleive all I have to do is want to believe in something... Well then I honestly believe the worlds made out of pancakes, and if we dig deep enough into the soil, we will find a river of maple syrup. Hey... sounds ridiculus right? But if you want to believe in it, it's true. Nothing has ever sounded like such a crutch to me in my life. All plausible, rational thought is out the window here people.
- Another assumption has to do with my background and what my hobbies are. For those of you who know me, you know that loud, angry music is basically my life. And I love music that is usually frowned upon by the conservative population. I have said it before but my life is nothing without punk rock as well as other forms of music. Without Screeching weasel, The dickies, Tiger army, INDK, and about a million other bands, I would not be breathing right now. Music is... me. Along with music I have also enjoyed plenty of literature that the jesus population doesn't like, mostly because it's not the bible. So the assumption that is made is that because I grew up loving what I love, I have been influenced by it to hate religion, and yet again this is completly false. First off the assumption that all music that I like is hateful towards religion is fucking wrong. Just because it's loud and sounds like something bad, it's not always the case okay? I grew up listening to the church hateing NoFX, and the openly christian punkers MxPx. I listened to Greg Graffin, and I listened to underoath. I read the bible too, first time I read it was fourth grade. So that doesn't check out at all, sorry. For fuck's sakes man, my parents, my brother and me drove a lot when I was little and the only things I remember hearing was country music and Amy Grant. I have probably (sadly) listened to more Toby Keith and Garth Brooks than most people will ever be "privledged" too *shudders*. It's funny, the reason I love the music I do is because it taught me how to think for myself (a characteristic lost in most religions) and to not let anyone tell me what to fucking think. I taught me how to be something most religions don't want... a independant person. In the end though, this had no efftect on my overall belief of anything. To think that everyone who hears a song and automatically makes his belief's based on this one song is ridiculus. Although people do it all the time with a book...
So After all that, I want to recap somethings I believe. To me religion is not real in the least, it's a real as santa claus or the tooth fairy. It's a book of fables that people choose to take way to serious.
"But cory, who do you think wrote it then?!" The fuck if I know who wrote it, but I will tell you this, at the time the book first surfaced in history, there was something called the bubonic plague (or the "Black DEATH!") and lets just say it wasn't a fun time to be alive. Although the disease was in it's early stages, the smart people already knew what it was and knew they couldn't stop it, because lets face it, you just can't get rid of rat's. In a time of dispair, people need something to believe in and this book was it. The plague went on to kill an estimated 12 million people.
"Well what's it done to hurt us really? So what if people are beleive in stupid shit?" It's up to people to decide what they really want to beleive, but when their decisions start to affect me or freedom in general, it's time to take a stand. The fact that it's almost 2010 and gay people cannot get married is fucking ridiculus. The fact that two people who love each other can't get married because they're the same sex, but two people of opposit sex's who don't deserve to get married in the least and don't love each other at all can. It's funny to me that we are following biblical law on this subject when A) We are, by our constituion, supposed to seperate church and state, and B) we have never, ever followed biblical law before! Not since the 1930's anyway. Don't even get me started on abortion and stem cell research, you fucking christians and decideing by law who can do what and what medical treatment is appropriate, FUCK YOU!!! you self centered cocksuckers! It's thing's like this that make this not just a stupid belief but a serious threat to the world and any chance to make this world a better place. To blindly believe in something and to ignor facts and complete utter LOGIC is what's going to hold this world back in a time when we need to advance.
"Aren't holy usually better in attitude and in life people than unholy people" This usually comes out in a ignorant sentence like "He is a bad person because he hasn't found jesus" or the opposite "He saved them there children because he was a man of god." As I admitted above, religious people have been very polite and hospitable to me personally for the most part. The statment that people who are believers are better than those who aren't though is far from true. Here's another thing that I want to let the holy people in on that they seem to just not get. People can do good in the world, and help people, without being full of your bullshit holy spirit! Nor do holy people live better lifes than those who are nontheist (that's a non beilever for those who don't want to go to dictionary.com). I feel no reason to give anyone examples of this at all, but since I just found a list of both religious and nontheist people on wikipedia, I say a few quik can't hurt just to show that the logic in this statment is... well there is none. These were just thrown up in about two minutes time so don't bother asking why I didn't use better examples.
Nontheists:
-Woody Allen, one of the most successful directors of all time. He's a heathen too... let me tell you.
-Brad Pitt, This atheist man never amounted to anything huh?
-Richard Branson, One of the wealthiest men in the world... gives to plenty of charities which have saved lives, and a very outspoken atheist man.
-William Sholto Douglas, Here's a name a few of you probably don't recognize, but this man is the number one English war hero of all time. Saved many lifes during WW2 and a complete atheist.
-Lance Armstrong, This man overcame cancer, and showed the will of a fucking true hero, all without the help of god.
Now the religous people:
-Jeffery Dahmer, Jesus told this man to kill the people he butchered.
-Fidel Castro, Proud Catholic.
-Timothy McVeigh, Another catholic butcher.
And let's not talk about the many other bad people of many different faiths, however this is in no way saying religous people are all bad people who do no good in the world. Stephen Hawking is a great man who has done leaps and bounds better this world, and he's a catholic. The same can be said that some atheist people are not very good people. Now you are probably asking yourself if this list prooves anything and the anwser is no of course. This prooves absolutly nothing at all, just because someone is or isn't of faith doesn't make them any better or worse off than people who are or aren't, which was my point at the start. To say someone is bad, or lost because he has no faith is complete shit. It's a crutch and a cop-out.
To assume that someone needs faith or else they are lost is a fucking joke too. I have often heard people ask me "well without faith, what makes you get up in the morning?" ... this has got to be a fucking joke. People are really saying Jesus is the only reason they do what they do in life? That's so fucking.... Sad. I don't need a reason to fucking wake up other than to live, to smell the air, to hear the birds chirp, to kiss my girlfriend on the forehead, and I sure as fuck don't need a reason to do good! I do good because you know what... I am a good person. I help old ladies with groceries, I give to charities, I give blood, I recycle, and I do good because my own moral and not some fucking god's!
"What do you make of people who try explaining evolution is false?" These people piss me off because they really have no facts. The items they do submit as facts are easily dismissed by any science major, and then they always counter with some other inane facts. I got a bunch of pamphlets that all try prooving facts against evolution and carbon dating. After doing some research on these, it turns out they're all bullshit, or highly misqouted. Some are even studies done by people who have no science degree. Fuck, people don't want to give in to the fact that they beleive in complete shit I guess. I will say this, we know for a fact that cells and bacteria can and do evolve, and while some evidence is groggy for sure, there is a shit load more proof of evolution than there is proof that anything from the bible is remotely true. In fact... is there any proof that the bible is real? I mean a real deffinitive proof... there is non. Shroud of Turrin? This thing is such a fucking laughable sham. Where's the holy grail? There's nothing mother fuckers!
"Aren't there at least good moral stories in the bible?" Without a doubt there are. The litrature is good, and I can see where it would inspire people... the same way Frodo's journy in Lord of the rings inspires people. The difference is obviously that one is looked at as non-fiction and another is considered great fantasy. I have no problem with people being inspired by the bible, but to live your life and base your decisions by a 2000 year old book is ludacris.
"Do beleifs really bother you that bad?" Like I stated above, I feel this world is being held back by a group of people holding on to a 2000 year old docterine and that is what sucks to me. I want my kids to come into a world where we are smart, and logical, and were gay people are treated fairly, and wars aren't started in the name of god (wich I know will never happen, but I can dream). A world where we do good for we the people and not because we think we'll burn in some place for not. It is possible to do good without having a internal afterlife as a motivation (either heaven or hell...) and you can make a positive influence without having a faith.
What do you make of religous parents who homeschool their kids? I honestly think it should be illeagal, or at least people should have to go through a application process and be audited. Some of you will scream at me that the this goes against the very freedoms I am fighting for in this article, but enough is enough. I have seen what these people do to their kids, and to not give a kid a chance to come to terms on their own with what they want to beleive is horseshit. The kids are victims! This goes beyond religion here people, to quote the great book Inherit the wind "It's not about science versus religion. It's about the right to think." The world is full of people who are going to disagree with you, who think different than you, and people who are going to tell you that you're beleiving in lies (I have experienced it for years). This is life ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the world, and to take you're kids out of an enviroment which is essential for them to learn that they are indeed different than others is not helping anybody. You want to put you're kids in a bubble so they are forced to think one way when in the end they end up missing on what is arguably thee single most important thing school is for, socializing with different people. We are a mutt society, quit trying to make pure-breads. And lastly, to steal from Inherit the wind again, if you do beleive in god, then you also beleive he gave us our brain, and our right to think freely. Do not take this away from your kids.
"What about the people who just find comfort in faith and heaven? are they bad guys?" I am not saying they are bad, people cope with things the way they want to, I can't shit on them for that. Although, I do find it sad that they need these things to be comforted. I was thinking about this awhile ago and I am going to hit you guys up with a hypothetical situation here. Let's say hypothetically me and my girlfriend are going to have a kid right now. We currently have two adorable cats, so this child is going to grow up in it's early years with two cats as pets. Now let's say that unfortunatly our cat Cleo dies when the child is five years old. At five years old, our child is not going to be able to comprehend, nor accept that the cat is simply dead, children can't cope, their minds are still too simple, the child needs to beleive the cat is floating in the clouds with all it's cat friends and a never ending mountain of catnip. This I understand, but the older people people get, the smarter they get, more mature, the better grasp on realtiy people get, they should be able to take fact and logic into consideration. To be comforted by something that's no more real than santa claus is mindless.
This whole topic is not to shit on the people who just sit there and believe however, they are free in this country to believe what they choose and I respect that. It's when they speak up against other peoples belief's and activly vote so people who don't agree with them are left out of their freedoms, that I have to stand up against them and say something.
"So mr. "I shoot everything down!" What do you beleive in then?" Quit simple. I will make this short... *ahem*
I beleive in MYSELF!
In the end, this is what the world has shown me of religion. Some people in this world want an anwser to the afterlife, as well as other thing's that life has no anwser for, so they find something to believe in. Some people in this world need something to hold onto to be a good person, to not be a alcoholic, to not be a drug abuser, to not be a whore, and to not be a asshole. It's so sad that they have no self will to just stop doing these things themselves, they need something to make them stop. In that respect, I guess religion has brainwashed some idiots to stop rapeing women, or beating their kids, and for that I am greatful, but in the end it's all just brainwashing. Are people afraid to listen to no one but themselves? Is it really that fucking scary? Are people really so weak willed that they need something fake to hang onto? Is it all just a placebo effect, where the people think it's real so they automatically feel better? I am baffeled, because I have no anwser to why people want to live their life by a rulebook of fake laws and promises.
Most religious people are devoid of all logical thought in it's intirety. They believe the anwser to everything good is "god's good will" and everything bad is "he has his ways, a greater plan". It's a crutch for those whom don't want to look into what really makes this world go around, what really makes things the way they are. Earlier this year, a plane of 155 people was forced to crash land on the Hudson River, and amazingly no one was killed. Oh the religious propaghada began imediantly. Words miracle were used, and people were saying "god was with that plane". Oh sure, let's forget about what a terrific individul the pilot was, with his years of training, and his skills, and his cool, unfathomable, nerve. Let's blame some entity for this. People who think this way are fucking morons, the people lived because the pilot was no slouch and a fucking hero. He did what his training called for and executed everything perfectly and because of him, not god, a hundred and fiftyfive people are alive. Blaming god for everything is... It's a lazy way out is what it is, and I will be in the minority of people that stands up and screams Fuck you! because this is getting out of hand. The world needs logic, the world needs brains, and anyone who stands in the way of it is a enemy of mine. Simple as that.
That's about all I got to say about this for today. I feel like this will be a constant theme in my posts coming up. I just want to leave you with some more thought provoking quotes from some various people and music artists. We will start off with the music because it is most important. I would also like to state that I mixed it up a bit, the indie rock, the punk, the ska, and even the hip-hop.
When the president talks to God Do they drink near beer and go play golf While they pick which countries to invade Which Muslim souls still can be saved? I guess god just calls a spade a spade When the president talks to God
When the president talks to God Does he ever think that maybe he's not? That that voice is just inside his head When he kneels next to the presidential bed Does he ever smell his own bullshit When the president talks to God? - Bright eyes
And the world might cease if we fail to tame the beast from the faith that you release comes an atheist peace. - Bad religion
Put your faith in a miracle And it's non-denominational Join the choir we will be singing In the church of wishful thinking - Greenday
The fear stricken, born again Christian, they got a vision a homogenized state Textbook decline, intelligent design They got Bill Nye on the list to execrate They don't want visitors in Jesusland They want life canned and bland in the fatherland Punk Rockers and emo kids, people doing things the church forbids Buddhists, agnostics, and atheists we're moving out of jesusland Art students and thespians, excluding country, all the musicians We want all hookers and comedians, nihilists are welcome too No longer svelte, they gotta punch new holes in the Bible belt - NoFX
well there's no god and there's no such thing as fate destiny is bullshit, your future's yours to make - The copyrights
So what's the truth, quit seeking forgiveness You need to cut the noose, but you don't believe in scissors You support the troops by wearing yellow ribbons? Just bring home our motherfuckin' brothers and sisters - Sage Francis
Some people live their lives by a little red book The points for right lying out and guides them good They never really mimic every word by eye 'Cause if they did they'd be in a whole world of strife The book's quite old school, but then it was tough It contains some quite experimental justice The thinking people are thinking that without this book That without these verses we'd pillage and murder but Following this red book word for word Leads you to actually pillage and murder Could it be so what we think to be right Is simply the opinion that survived? Do what you think's right and you will feel alright 'Cause when you're bad you will feel sad That's the religion I live by There's a bloke in the book who made everything He knows every individual and every trick in them Way above emotion, never getting stressed But when men choose against him, gets jealous People fight for him in crippling wars But since he has the power of infinite awe We're merely itching on futilities floor Should we really be needing to assist him at all? If he loves us all, knowing all we think Should he only like people with faith in him? Given I can't control what I truly believe Can I be forgiven for only believing who I see? Could it be time to avoid this bush So we wouldn't be blind when joining up coulds? Could we see both sides of the coin for the good Breed less strife on our voyage for good? Getting threatened by men with questions We'll never get anywhere rejecting evidence Could we test everything instead of betting On alleged legends? If we teach that it's right to blindly believe If we reach to the sky to define our meaning Well, I agree what's right will keep driving people To fight with people - The streets
Nuclear Apox spells your doom like the t.v. in yer living room each bomb kills a million dead it melts your skin and implodes yer head And now you get yer judgement day You think you'll float up then away But yer guilty just like everyone You turn to ash when the burning's done - Leftover crack
Take the poison of your age Don't lick your fingers when you turn the page It was wrong but you said it was right In the future I will read at night It's the Neon Bible, the Neon Bible Not much chance for survival If the Neon Bible is true - The arcade fire
What if I never heard of Jesus? What if I was born alone in a cell? (You would burn, burn in...) Heaven will wait, heaven's too late I choose to find my heaven here on Earth So all religion can go straight, straight to hell - Goldfinger
They all claim that they have the Answer When they don't even know the Question They're just a bunch of liars They just want your money They just want your consciousness - Dead kennedy's
Music has always spoken to me in way's that nothing else can. It goes into my ears and into my soul. Some of you don't care what a bunch of musicians have to say though. They may be nobody to you so who cares right? I understand. Well to end this topic I thought I would find some people who aren't musicians to post down below. Some people are famous comedians, Author's, while others are famous people in history period. Thanks to www.americanatheists.org for some of these.
"I want you to know, when it comes to believing in god- I really tried. I really really tried. I tried to believe that there is a god who created each one of us in his own image and likeness, loves us very much and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize...something is FUCKED-UP. Something is WRONG here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is NOT good work. If this is the best god can do, I am NOT impressed. Results like these do not belong on the resume of a supreme being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently run universe, this guy would have been out on his all-powerful-ass a long time ago." - George Carlin
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." - Albert Einstein
"No man with any sense of humor ever founded a religion." - Robert G. Ingersoll
"If you must believe in anything, believe in yourselves, in your senses and in your minds. To accept a religious creed is to accept another's mind in place of your own, and generally contrary to your own. When religious belief comes in brains go out. - Marilla Young Ricker
"When you do not know what you are talking about, label it SPIRITUAL TRUTH." - Graham Kendall
These last few are unknown, couldn't find out who wrote them.
"Man has asked for the truth and the Church has given him miracles. He has asked for knowledge, and the Church has given him theology. He has asked for facts, and the Church has given him the Bible. This foolishness should stop. The Church has nothing to give man that has not been in cold storage for two thousand years. Anything would become stale in that time."
"Science endlessly revises models as observations require it. That is called progress by science and a scandal by religion."
"The ignroant man see's religion as a reason to surrender, while the smart man see's religion as a surrender of reason."
"The scientist yearns to find and eventually know the truth; The religious man wants the truth to fit his preconceived mold. So, as a result... The scientist alters his perception to conform to the facts; The religious man tries to change the facts to conform to his beliefs.
So that rap's up this epic post that I spent a lot of time and effort on. My fingers are bleeding... Anyway's, a quik thanks again to www.americanatheists.org as well as www.christianamerica.org for some great references. I know some people are going to want to email me so mallrat867@gmail.com is where you can do that. Please send me a message about anything.
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